obama returning from holiday early? is he a man that this is irrelevant? and the market has a bit [ inaudible ] >> couldinged market is not reading this right, could be the president is coming back for strictly symbolic purposes and don't, in fact, get a deal going into new year's eve. we just don't know at this point. and there's a lot riding on this, on advice yowly, that we can't see from here how we are going to get this deal by monday, what's going to be required is these guys are going to have to come to a deal behind closed doors and announce it publicly, it is going to have to survive the vetting it gets publicly and then it's going to have the votes in both the house and the senate, which are very different bodies, one controlled by republican, the other controlled by democrats and that's going to be a very dicy thing to do but it's going to be a moment of high drama if we get a between now and monday. >> his point about proceed yours is a good one. the president spoke to the business roundtable the other day as you recall, eamon, even if you got